shamblesuk said:
I also must say that this Marrow looks like a zucchina to me and squash is not pumpkin..
The problem is that everyone here just says zucchine, no distinction between large or small.
Yes.
I (and maybe other Italians as well) have a problem here: zucca is only pumpkin for me, that's why it's confusing.
This is cool: now I definitely know what English speakers mean with marrow and courgettes/zucchini.
Yeah, I know.
But most AE speakers don't. We have zucchini and baby zucchini, and if you let them grow too large, they become baseball bats.
Huh..But most AE speakers don't. We have zucchini and baby zucchini, and if you let them grow too large, they become baseball bats.
Elisabetta
I kinda had the same problem with Her dad's orto last summer: he showed me what he was growing and he called half of that stuff "squash"!!I grow crook-neck squash in my garden every year. A native Roman was visiting us and I took him out to see the "orto" (I learned that from him - I was using "giardino" incorrectly before that day).
I pointed to the squash and asked how it was said in Italy, and he said "zucca".
I said, isn't that a pumpkin? and he said "yes" - same word, different "fruits and vegetables".
I hope they don't taste like one.and if you let them grow too large, they become baseball bats.
Elisabetta
Pual, I would call this (from your post above) a large green squash, maybe a large zucchini. The term marrow is not used in AE.
Ok, 2 new piece of info here: marrow is BE and zucchini is a kind of squash?
Elisabetta, that same picture is shown on this page as a 'marrow', and it's from an American website.The link I provided in Post 14 is also American. This American dictionary says that the word 'marrow' is British but makes no such distinction for 'marrow squash'. It's all so complicated!
I have never heard an AE speaker say marrow in this context.I suppose that 's' stuck out like dog's testicles on a cat, Elisabetta!!!Charles, you can always find exceptions, which is why I qualified my statement directly above to say these terms are not much used in AE.
Also, if you're referring to the Backyard Gardner site as American (based, perhaps, on its WA address), I'd point out that it also uses the spelling acclimatise, rather than the typically AE acclimatize, so maybe the writer for the site is not AE.
Elisabetta
In realtà controllando su Wikispecies risultano esitere molte più sottospecie di queste 4 elencate sul sito Agraria, ma forse non sono coltivate in Italia.
Negli altri siti che ho cercato invece ho trovato nomi troppo specifici di singole varietà locali (Marina di Chioggia, Lunga di Napoli, Americana, Zucca lunga d'Italia, etc).
Sì, penso anche io che la morale sia questa. E tra l'altro non c'è proprio esatta corrispondenza di termini tra una lingua e l'altra.Che efficienza, Rye!
Purtroppo la tua ricerca non fa altro che ribadire che, a meno di andare sullo scientifico, noi non facciamo tutte quelle distinzioni che fanno gli anglofoni (e a me non sembra neppure di aver mai visto dal fruttivendolo nessuno dei molti tipi di squash che si trovano in US).
Per noi ci sono zucchine e zucche, punto.
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Salve!Che efficienza, Rye!
Purtroppo la tua ricerca non fa altro che ribadire che, a meno di andare sullo scientifico, noi non facciamo tutte quelle distinzioni che fanno gli anglofoni (e a me non sembra neppure di aver mai visto dal fruttivendolo nessuno dei molti tipi di squash che si trovano in US).
Per noi ci sono zucchine e zucche, punto.
Come ho detto, la zucchina (contrariamente a quello che molti inglesi pensano) non è altro che una specie (Pepo) di zucca che si mangia prima che arriva a maturazione.
