subjunctive of 'If it's raining, they won't go to the park.'

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Honki

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Japanese
Hi.

A grammar book of mine gives sentence (1) as a conditional sentence.

(1) If it's raining, they won't go to the park.

Needless to say, sentence (1) is not the subjunctive mood.

Question: What are subjunctive past/past-perfect sentences of (1)?

Look at sentences (2) and (3) below:

(2) If it was raining now, they wouldn't go to the park.
(3) If it had been raining at that time, they wouldn't have gone to the park.

These are sentences which I produced in accordance with syntactic rules of the subjunctive mood, although adverbials ('now' and 'at that time') are added.

Are sentences (2) and (3) grammatically and semantically correct?

Will you please give me your opinions about sentences (2-3) and subjunctives sentences of (1)?
 
  • entangledbank

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    English - South-East England
    (3) is correct: it makes a hypothetical statement about the past.

    (2) is more difficult. 'If it was raining now' implies it's not actually raining now; but 'they wouldn't go to the park' suggests a possible action in the future. Your original (1) doesn't contain 'now', so 'if it's raining' suggests we're thinking about the future. Tomorrow, if it's raining, they won't go. You could imagine circumstances where (2) could be used. If it is (was) raining now, then the park benches will (would) be wet for several hours, so they won't want to go.
     

    Hildy1

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    English - US and Canada
    As a speaker of AE/CE, I would say for sentence (2)
    - If it were raining now...
    That is, I would use an actual subjunctive. This use of the subjunctive is less common in BE.

    I agree that (3) is correct.
     

    Honki

    Senior Member
    Japanese
    Thank you for your comments, entanglebank and Hindy1.

    Your comments are very helpful.

    May I think that sentence (4) below is a natural expression as a subjunctive sentence?

    (4) If it were raining now, then the park benches would be wet for several hours, so they won't want to go.
     

    Hildy1

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    English - US and Canada
    I agree with Jimbob.
    It is not raining now, so the park benches are not wet.
    If it were raining, the people would not want to go to the park.
     
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