tenir à ce que

[zatarah_deluged]

In a list of verbs preceding the subordinate clause in my text gives the translation for "tenir à ce que" as "to be anxious that." However, in another thread (this site isn't letting me post the link, sorry) there is a completely different translation given (essentially as "vouloir") and the verb used doesn't give away if the phrase is or isn't in the subjunctive.

Are they both correct translations? And, if they are, does anxious in this sense mean "être angoissé," "être nerveux," or moreso "être impatient"?

Merci d'avance.

 

[josuepolo]

I d say it s a bit of both.
"Tenir a ce que" expresses the will, but it' s much more determinated or purposeful than "vouloir". Let's say that it emphasizes the fact that you are very concerned about your will being fulfilled. And being too concerned about something can be interpreted as anxiety.

le subjonctif est obligatoire.

 

[Mezzofanti]

"Mes parents tiennent à ce que je rentre avant vingt-trois heures" = "My parents insist that I be back before 11 pm."

The English "insist", much stronger than the French "insister", will often be the best translation of "tenir à" whether or not followed by "ce que" and a subjunctive verb.

 

[englishman]

In a list of verbs preceding the subordinate clause in my text gives the translation for "tenir à ce que" as "to be anxious that."

I think this can often be translated as "to be keen to" or "to be meaning to" e.g.

"je tiens à ce que je vous remercie" = "I'm keen to thank you" or "I've been meaning to thank you"

[edited: apparently this should be: "je tiens à vous remercier"]

i.e. it expresses strong intention to perform some action.

 

[dr.whoox]

Hello, how can I translate :

Je tenais beaucoup a ce que tous mes enfants viennent pour mon marriage.

Je tiens beaucoup a ce que cela se fasse.

More spoken language:
"Tu veux vraiment le faire, tu es sur?
-Oui, j'y tiens beaucoup."

Any help would be apreciated

 

[cropje_jnr]

Suggestion: I was very keen for my children to come to my wedding.

 

[beaujohn]

Le phrase "tenir à ce que" se traduise normalement "to want to", mait mon prof dit qu'il veut dire "to insist". A-t-elle raison?

Example: "Je tiens à ce qu'il soit à l'heure" = "I insist that he be on time."

~ beau

 

[pascal3]

Yes, she's perfectly right !

 

[rolmich]

Oui, ton prof a raison. "To want to" se traduirait par : "J'aimerais/je voudrais qu'il soit à l'heure"

 

[wm138]

Il y a dans les poémes épiques et dans les tragédies des anciens un genre de simplicité qui tient à ce que les hommes étaient identifés à cette epoque avec la nature, et croyaiennt dépendre du destin comme elle dépend de la néncessite. (Madame Staël Del'Allemagne, II, 11)

1) what is the meaning of tenir à (insists? related to?)

2) ce que, can we use only que?

Merci!

 

[Micia93]

one could also say "qui veut que les hommes", which means "simplicity which implies that ..."

 

[Mauricet]

Micia, je pense que le sens est plutôt "simplicity which is implied by the fact that ..." : un genre de simplicité qui vient de ce que ...

 

[Micia93]

ha oui, tu as raison Mauricet, cela a effectivement plus le sens de "qui est due à"

 

[thalaivi]

Hi All,

Can someone clarify what tenir à ce que means in this following sentence

En effet, si le /h/ de hêtre ou de hanche n’est pas aujourd’hui traité de la même façon que celui de homme ou de honneur, cela tient à ce qu’il y a eu une période où des mots comme hêtre ou hanche, introduits en Gaule par les populations germaniques, se prononçaient avec une vraie consonne /h/

If the /h/ isn't pronounced the same way... it goes back to the fact that there was a period...

This is what I could think of

Thanks in advance
Vidya

 

[Micia93]

I'd rather say : "which is explained by that that ...."

 

[Louis XI]

It just means this is due to the fact that...

 

[Nicklondon]

Ou,tout simplement, since...