(The) + name of a club.

[Dr. Benway]

Hello,

I'm translating into English some materials in which the name of a club appears quite often.

When should I add (or remove) the article before the name?
Is there any rule?

Club Magic, for example:

I'll meet you at (the) Club Magic.
The money is in (the) Club Magic.
(The) Club Magic will be located in Rio.

Thank you.

 

[Rondivu]

I'd leave out the article as in...
Welcome to Club Magic!

 

[Dr. Benway]

Yep, but always?

I've seen the article added quite capriciously in some cases.
For example, the sopranos' Bada Bing is sometimes referred as the Bada Bing, while others just Bada Bing.
I'm looking for a rule.

Thanks, Rondivu.

 

[Rondivu]

No, not always, especially if it is the name of an organization:

We're members of the Chess Club.

For the use of the definite article in English, see this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv97.shtml

 

[Dr. Benway]

Thanks for the link.
It doesn't clarify the matter that much though.
I'm afraid I will have to keep on doing it by ear.

 

[Rondivu]

Thanks for the link.
It doesn't clarify the matter that much though.
I'm afraid I will have to keep on doing it by ear.

I might have misinterpreted your query. In your first post, I think you asked if you should include the article in your examples.
Then in your second message, I think you asked for a more general use of "the", hence the link I provided.
Sorry for not being able to help you.

 

[Dr. Benway]

You were of great help.
It's just that I didn't get the answer I was looking for.

Thanks.

 

[Rondivu]

You were of great help.
It's just that I didn't get the answer I was looking for.

Thanks.

Now that I think about it. If you leave out "club", I think the article is necessary.

Welcome to the Bada Bing/the Magic.
I'll meet you at the Bada Bing.

 

[Dr. Benway]

That makes sense.
However, according to that, it should be I'll meet you at Bada Bing Club, which doesn't sound quite right, does it?

Thanks, Rondivu.

 

[chileno]

You only use the article if you want to emphasize the name of the club. In general you'd leave it out.

 

[Rondivu]

That makes sense.
However, according to that, it should be I'll meet you at Bada Bing Club, which doesn't sound quite right, does it?

Thanks, Rondivu.

I'm not a native speaker of English but this sounds good to me. I might be wrong, though.

 

[Rondivu]

You only use the article if you want to emphasize the name of the club. In general you'd leave it out.

Could you elaborate on this, please?

 

[chileno]

Of all the clubs in the city, we meet at the Bada Bing club!

 

[Rondivu]

Of all the clubs in the city, we meet at the Bada Bing club!

Ah, I see. This is a good example.
Thank you

 

[Dr. Benway]

So, according to chileno, when in doubt, if you leave it out, you can't go wrong.
Am i right?

 

[chileno]

No. It isn't a matter of going wrong. It is a mater of nuance.

When you refer to the club, it means that in practicality no other club exists, at least for you, right?

That's emphasis on the article.