Discussion in 'العربية (Arabic)' started by Qittat Ulthar, Oct 5, 2009.
Can you say الرف تحته or do you have to say الرف الذي هو تحته? Or something different?
I think you can say it this way:
The shelf below = The lower shelf = الرف السفلي
I would think though that الرف السفلى means the bottom shelf, or am I wrong? The shelf below is not necessarily the bottom shelf.
It depends on the Context
Can you provide more Context ?
Can you give me more context so that I can help you because I don't understand your question.
You are correct, Qittat Ulthar, that it does not necessarily mean the bottom shelf, but I can't seem to think of a way to express it, so Faylasoof's suggestion may have to do. Or perhaps you could say something like الرف الذي تحت الرف الأول/الثاني/الأعلى مباشرةً.
I'm not sure تحته is used the way you used it. Rather the word أدناه is used to mean below in that sense. I also wanted to mention that phrases such as أدناه and أعلاه are, according to my knowledge, only used in formal written contexts in phrases such as المذكور علاه (previously mentioned) and الموقع أدناه (the undersigned). I don't think they are used to describe the position of physical objects in relation to each other. However, I might be wrong.
Hoe gaat het?
I think: The bottom shelf = The lowest shelf = الرف الأسفل
So either you go for something like الرف السفلىor what Josh is saying, i.e. like a short sentence.
If I get you correctly, you could say
الرف التالى من أسفل
الرف الذى يليه من أسفل
Well, if you have a bookcase with six shelves, for example, and you have a row of books all by one author on the first shelf, but this row continues on the second shelf, you could say it is on the "top shelf and the shelf below". So "the shelf below" there means the shelf directly under the shelf you mentioned before.
My guess then was correct
على الرف الاول و الرف التالى له...
Or الرف الأسفل منه or simply الرف الأسفل .
The very bottom shelf is the أسفل رف or أدنى رف and also الرف الأسفل/السفلي if it's clear from the context.
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