Titularisation

[fraisefrancaise]

Hi all you sports experts out there,

I'm translating a fiction program about soccer players (footballers) and I'm having trouble with the word "titularisation". The press relations person is on the phone with a journalist and she says:

Comme je vous l'ai expliqué, Léon Dubois ne donnera pas d'interview avant sa première titularisation.

Léon Dubois is a new player they've just signed on. Does titularisation mean before he signs the final papers? Before the start of the season?

Here's my translation:
As I explained, Léon Dubois will give no interviews before (he's officially on the team/ the start of the season).

I'd be grateful for your help!

Thanks

 

[Xavier11222]

Hi,
Etre titulaire is to be in the starting line-up - as opposed to being remplaçant, a sub or reserve player.

 

[shine]

Hi,
I think it means his first game with the club, but I'm not 100% sure

 

[fraisefrancaise]

Hi,
Etre titulaire is to be in the starting line-up - as opposed to being remplaçant, a sub or reserve player.

Hi, thanks.

That makes sense, except why wouldn't a player be able to give an interview until he's on the starting line-up? It seems a little odd to me, but then again, I'm no sports expert.

So then the sentence would be:
As I explained, Léon Dubois will give no interviews until he's on the starting line-up.

For some reason, it seems strange. What do you think?

 

[Xavier11222]

Yes; it sounds like blackmail now - how about "he won't give any interviews before his season with the team has started" ?

 

[fraisefrancaise]

Hi, thanks for your replies.

Since there was no obvious answer, I changed the sentence around a bit.

Here it is:

I've already explained that Léon Dubois will not be giving interviews until we determine the season's line-up.

That's the best I could come up with. Still open to any ideas...

Thanks

 

[lawlore]

Comme je vous l'ai expliqué, Léon Dubois ne donnera pas d'interview avant sa première titularisation.

"As I have (already) explained to you, Leon Dubois will not be granting interviews before (he makes) his debut"

 

[sound shift]

His debut could be as a substitute, so I don't think ....... until he makes his debut quite covers it.

How about ....... until he comes on at the start of a game for the first time?

 

[fraisefrancaise]

Then how about:

"...until he makes his debut on the starting line-up."

Does that work? It sounds good to me now, but I know very little about sports!

Thanks!

 

[sound shift]

That's very good, fraisefrancaise! In BE we tend to say "in the starting line-up", but that is a minor detail.

 

[fraisefrancaise]

That's very good, fraisefrancaise! In BE we tend to say "in the starting line-up", but that is a minor detail.

Gotcha, thanks! Mille mercis à tous!

 

[Neufmanil]

Bonjour à tous,

Avant le début d'un match, 11 joueurs sont choisis par l'entraîneur - les titulaires - et d'autres joueurs sont en remplacement éventuel - les remplaçants. Si un titulaire est expulsé, blessé etc... et sort du match, il est remplacé par un joueur qui garde toujours le statut de remplaçant pour ce match.
Ce même remplaçant peut être choisi pour le prochain match pour figurer au nombre des 11 joueurs : il est alors titulaire pour ce prochain match...
Quand on est dans le line-up, on a fait ses preuves, et on vit le match plus de l'intérieur que sur le banc des remplaçants... on est peut-être plus capable de "tenir l'interview" comme un pro...