To put the tea in the right place

[Shounak]

Hello,

I want to write:

"To put the tea in the right place" and "to put the tea in the wrong place."

Can anyone please help me?

 

[Starless74]

The only problem is, tea wasn't known in the west until the XVI century, so a bona fide Latin word for tea doesn't exist.
But you may use infusus, -i = infusion (more generic).
I'd suggest:
Infusum in rectum locum ponere.
Infusum in pravum locum ponere.

 

[bearded]

in rectum locum ponere

Starless, My doubt is probably unjustified, but... I found several examples of ''ponere in +ablative''. Are you quite sure that accusative is the right case here?

 

[jazyk]

Most examples in this dictionary are in the ablative, but it also says the accusative is poetical.

 

[Scholiast]

Saluete omnes!

To me (as an enthusiastic tea-drinker) this question has been a vexation. The Linnaean designation for 'tea' is Camellia (I know not why). But this would suggest, following Starless' intelligent idea (# 2) of infusio or something of the kind, Camellia infusa.

As to 'in the right place': my feeling is that proprio loco is nearer to the feel than recto loco. (And pravo loco feels altogether wrong—that's an 'immoral' place).

Finally ponere + ablative/locative seems fine to me, without a preposition.

Σ

 

[jazyk]

All the examples in the dictionary I linked to have a preposition.

 

[Scholiast]

Thanks jazyk. I need to return to this...

Σ

 

[exgerman]

Thanks jazyk. I need to return to this...

Shouldn't in have its normal usage: with the accusative for motion toward, with the ablative for location in?

So ponere in locum, but sedere in loco.

 

[jazyk]

Most examples in this dictionary are in the ablative, but it also says the accusative is poetical.

 

[bearded]

Shouldn't in have its normal usage: with the accusative for motion toward, with the ablative for location in?

A rule really not mandatory:
castra in circo Flaminio posuit
tabulas testamenti in aerario pono
(Examples - from lat. authors - in the Latin-Italian Dictionary)

 

[Shounak]

Thank you every one. So, to summarise can I put it as:

proprio loco right place
pravo loco wrong place

?
Keeping aside the tea part?

 

[bearded]

Shounak, just out of curiosity:
When you wrote ''to put the tea in the right/wrong place'' did you mean the tea leaves, the cup containing the tea drink, the teapot..?

 

[fdb]

To me (as an enthusiastic tea-drinker) this question has been a vexation. The Linnaean designation for 'tea' is Camellia (I know not why).

"The generic name Camellia is taken from the Latinized name of Rev. Georg Kamel, SJ (1661–1706), a Moravian-born Jesuit lay brother, pharmacist, and missionary to the Philippines. Carl Linnaeus chose his name in 1753 for the genus to honor Kamel's contributions to botany."

quoth Wikipedia.

 

[Scholiast]

fdb, gratias maximas for this illumination (# 13). Fascinating. The Jesuits' contributions to science as well as to missionary endeavour have been impressive.

I remain unhappy about 'the wrong place'. loco non apto maybe?

But I think we still need more guidance from Shounak about what the question means.

Σ

 

[Shounak]

It means the tea cup not the leaves.

 

[Quiviscumque]

From Silva | Neo-Latin Lexicon :
.drnk tea / potio Sinica [Eichenseer]; thea* [s.17]; thee indecl. [s.17] | black tea thea* Sinensis [Scheller, Lexicon, 1783]; thea* nigra [Scheller, Lexicon, 1783] | cochlear theanum* [s.18]; cochlear thearium* [Haas, Handwörterbuch, 1808]; ligula theana* | teacup pocillum theanum* [Eichenseer] (Helf.)

.drnk tea / theana potio (LRL); thea (Alb. I)

.drnk tea thea (Lev.)

 

[Starless74]

It means the tea cup not the leaves.

If it's about the cup, I'd focus on the cup:
Poculum recte / non recte collocare. (literally: "to place the cup the right/wrong way")