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Training in karate under/by

Discussion in 'English Only' started by Karen123456, May 8, 2009.

  1. Karen123456 Senior Member

    Malaysia English
    Training in karate under/by Shihan Jason Tan on Thursdays at 8pm at Kei Shin Kan gymnasium.

    Should it be 'under' or 'by'?

    Many thanks.
  2. bibliolept

    bibliolept Senior Member

    Northern California
    AE, Español
    I prefer "under"; I suspect "by" won't sound too odd to most people.
  3. spirals Senior Member

    English - England
    I prefer "by" because "under" is often used in "under the tuition of" or a similar phrase. However, it doesn't matter much.
  4. P22T33

    P22T33 Senior Member

    Cairo, Egypt
    Français - English
    Under = Under the supervision of (the trainer is only watching, supervising and monitoring performance of the trainee at a distance)

    By = Standing by the trainee (the trainer is following the trainee closely and requires a direct mirroring and mimicry of each and every step)

    Obviously, "under" is a far better method. Nevertheless, "by" training is often required.

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