Urdu: روگ ایسے بھی غمِ یار سے لگ جاتے ہیں

Discussion in 'Indo-Iranian Languages' started by Alfaaz, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Alfaaz Senior Member


    روگ ایسے بھی غمِ یار سے لگ جاتے ہیں​
    در سے اُٹھتے ہیں تو دیوار سے لگ جاتے ہیں

    پہلے پہلے ہوس اک آدھ دکاں کھولتی ہے​
    پھر تو بازار کے بازار سے لگ جاتے ہیں

    احمد فراز


    • Would you say the اُٹھتے ہیں describes the روگ (personifying them, as seems to have been done with ہوس in the second quoted couplet) or just the روگی?
    • What could be appropriate ways to express پہلے پہلے and اک آدھ in English?
    • How could بازار کے بازار سے لگ جاتے ہیں be translated into English?
      • The usage of سے seems to be similar to that discussed in this thread.
  2. marrish

    marrish Senior Member

    اُردو Urdu

    It is ''yes'' to the first question although I would not say it is a personification; perhaps "animization"? It is not rogii, the poet speaks of rog.

    The remainder of your questions is about English - and I don't consider myself able to say anything about English in front of you. All I can do is to try to explain the meaning, but finding a suitable word or expression of English for these Urdu phrases should be on your shoulders. I will certainly benefit from your findings!

    (I'm quite sure ik-aadh (ek aadh) has been discussed before by no-one else than someone who has a weakness for the word ''rog'' so I think it is possible the English translation is there). I'm sorry if I couldn't answer to your satisfaction.
  3. Qureshpor Senior Member

    Punjabi, Urdu پنجابی، اردو
    Answer to second, third and fourth questions. (First is for a poetry forum, in my humble opinion, that is!)

    pahle pahle/Initially, in the beginning

    ik-aadh dukaaN/ the odd shop

    baazaar ke baazaar/ A whole bunch of markets

    se/like, resembling, kind of
  4. Alfaaz Senior Member

    Thanks for the helpful answers.

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