Urdu, Hindi: echo words on auxiliary verbs

[MonsieurGonzalito]

Friends,

I am a little confused about the mechanism used to form echo words with verbs.
I understand that the "conjugation auxiliary" (i.e., honaa) is not echoed. For example:

1. are, kyaa tum kuchh khaate-vaate ho, yaa nahiiN?

But what happens whith deominative verbs (i.e., nominal words "verbalized" with hoonaa or karnaa)? To say "I clean and such" one says:


2. maiN saaf-vaaf kartaa huuN
or
3. maiN saaf kartaa-vartaa huuN?

And what happens with light verb auxiliars? Perhaps there it dependes on which part the "et cetera applies" to?
For example, I believe that, to say "He started to cry and such", where the generalization applies to the action, I would say:

4. vo(h) rone-vone lagaa

but what if the generalization applies not to the main action, but to the coloring verb? For example, to say "He cried unexpectedly and such", can I say

5. vo(h) ro baiThaa-vaiThaa?

or that is too much 😁?

Thanks in advance for any anwers or comments.

 

[littlepond]

But what happens whith deominative verbs (i.e., nominal words "verbalized" with hoonaa or karnaa)? To say "I clean and such" one says:


2. maiN saaf-vaaf kartaa huuN
or
3. maiN saaf kartaa-vartaa huuN?

Usually, one would say, rather, "saaf-safaaii karnaa." One does not always have to have two verbs: the Hindi "echoing" or reinforcing can involve different mechanisms.

But, you could say "saaf-vaaf karnaa." There would be nothing wrong in it and would not sound odd. Even 3. could work though would sound slightly odd to some ears.

4. vo(h) rone-vone lagaa

Note that one has the standard "rone-dhone lagnaa," so "vone" (or "s(h)one") here wouldn't be used by all the speakers, though some would.

but what if the generalization applies not to the main action, but to the coloring verb? For example, to say "He cried unexpectedly and such", can I say

5. vo(h) ro baiThaa-vaiThaa?

or that is too much 😁?

It is not only too much but makes no sense either.

 

[aevynn]

saaf-vaaf

"saaf-safaaii karnaa."

Another (common) variant for this one is "Saaf-Suuf karnaa."