mood - موڈ، مزاج
وہ بگڑ گئے ہیں مجھ سے جو مجھے منا رہے تھے
ابھی ہے مزاج برہم ابھی مُسکرا رہے تھے
یہ ادا نہیں تو کیا ہے چلو جو بھی ہو چکا ہے
مگر اب مُعاف کر دو
مسرور انور از پاکستانی اردو فلم آس
یہ شان بے نیازی یہ بے رخی کا عالم
بے بات ہو گیا ہے اُن کا مزاج برہم
اک پل میں ہم نے دیکھے کیا کیا حسیں نظارے
کچھ لوگ روٹھ کر بھی لگتے ہیں کتنے پیارے
مسرور انور از پاکستانی اردو فلم عندلیب
جب سماں ہو پیارا پیارا
اور بگڑا ہو موڈ تمہارا
مجھے تم تم! بہت بُرے لگتے ہو
اب تھوک بھی دو یہ غصّہ قربان تمہارے جاؤں
اک بار اگر تم روٹھو ، میں سَو سَو بار مناؤں
دل اندر سے میرا تڑپے یوں ہی کہتی ہوں اوپر سے
مجھے تم تم! بہت برے لگتے ہو
قتیل شفائی از پاکستانی اردو فلم بکھرے موتی
ابھی ہے مزاج برہم ابھی مُسکرا رہے تھے
یہ ادا نہیں تو کیا ہے چلو جو بھی ہو چکا ہے
مگر اب مُعاف کر دو
مسرور انور از پاکستانی اردو فلم آس
یہ شان بے نیازی یہ بے رخی کا عالم
بے بات ہو گیا ہے اُن کا مزاج برہم
اک پل میں ہم نے دیکھے کیا کیا حسیں نظارے
کچھ لوگ روٹھ کر بھی لگتے ہیں کتنے پیارے
مسرور انور از پاکستانی اردو فلم عندلیب
جب سماں ہو پیارا پیارا
اور بگڑا ہو موڈ تمہارا
مجھے تم تم! بہت بُرے لگتے ہو
اب تھوک بھی دو یہ غصّہ قربان تمہارے جاؤں
اک بار اگر تم روٹھو ، میں سَو سَو بار مناؤں
دل اندر سے میرا تڑپے یوں ہی کہتی ہوں اوپر سے
مجھے تم تم! بہت برے لگتے ہو
قتیل شفائی از پاکستانی اردو فلم بکھرے موتی
آج اس نے ہنس کے یوں پوچھا مزاج
عمر بھر کے رنج و غم یاد آ گئے
احسان دانش
عمر بھر کے رنج و غم یاد آ گئے
احسان دانش
This sounds fine to me, at least! Here's a she3r by Ahmad Nadeem Qasmi which uses a "~ mizaaj meN honaa" type construction.
yeh inqilaab to ta3miir ke mizaaj meN hai
giraa'e jaate haiN aivaaN bane-banaae hue
And, FWIW, the following sentence appears in the Hindi translation of Vikram Seth's novel "An Equal Music." It's about a dog named Buzby:
bazbii dauR lagaa detaa hai, aur phir lauTkar achchhe mizaaj meN hansoN par bhauNkne lagtaa hai.
Please excuse the late reply. aevynn has already provided a detailed answer, but I would just add that I haven't seen many (literary or non-literary) examples during a brief online search. *It would be interesting to hear other forum members' opinions!Centemare said:
*Some of the search results/websites seem to be direct (machine?) translations of English articles. Among these, there are even sentences like the following:
- اگر آپ ـــــــــ کے مزاج میں ہیں، تو...
- If you're in the mood for _________, then...
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Could you please elaborate upon what "it" refers to? میں خراب مزاج میں ہوں and/or اگر آپ ـــــــــ کے مزاج میں ہیں، تو?marrish said:
(I was actually thinking of you when writing post #7, since you have always been one of the first ones to highlight calques in this forum!)
It i.e. the sample you posted, but it is the same with میں خراب مزاج میں ہوں as well.
(I was expecting this, that's why I haven't procrastinated with responding!)
آپ کے مزاج؟
How could one express the following without using the English word mood?marrish said:
- The children were in the mood for some ice cream. - بچّے آئس کریم کھانے کے موڈ میں تھے
- He wasn't in the mood for fighting. - وہ جھگڑنے کے موڈ میں نہیں تھا
Is there a particular reason for this (only one being idiomatic, while in other cases both might be idiomatic)?marrish said:
- اس کی حالت بری ہے
- وہ بری حالت میں ہے
You might use man — bachchoN ko aa'is kriim khaane kaa man kar rahaa thaa. Or you could use something like chaahnaa — wuh laRnaa nahiiN chaahtaa thaa.
aa'iis kriim khaane ko bachchoN kaa man kar rahaa thaa (?)
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Interesting! Both of these postposition usages with man karnaa sound natural to me [*]. Does the postposition usage from my suggestion in #12 sound awkward to you, @Qureshpor saaHib?
[*]: And maybe bachchoN kaa aa'is kriim khaane kaa man kar rahaa hai is acceptable too.
[*]: And maybe bachchoN kaa aa'is kriim khaane kaa man kar rahaa hai is acceptable too.
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بچّوں کا آئیس کریم کھانے کو جی چاہ رہا تھا۔
bachchoN kaa aa'iis kriim khaane ko jii chaah rahaa thaa.
بچّوں کا آئیس کریم کھانے کو جی مچل رہا تھا۔
bachchoN kaa aa'iis kriim khaane ko jii machal rahaa thaa.
اُس کی طبیعت جھگڑنے کی طرف مائل نہیں تھی۔
us kii tabii3at jhagRne kii taraf maa'il nahiiN thii.
aevynn said:
Thank you aevynn SaaHib and Qureshpor SaaHib.Qureshpor said:
A few other translations that are often used:
- اُس کا لڑنے جھگڑنے کا کوئی ارادہ نہیں تھا
- وہ اس وقت لڑنے جھگڑنے کا خواہاں بالکل بھی نہیں تھا
- بچّے آئس کریم کھانے کے خواہاں/خواہش مند تھے
- The children desired to eat ice cream.
- He did not want to fight/argue.
- He wasn't temperamentally inclined towards arguing/fighting.
- He had no intention of arguing.
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I agree that there is a subtle difference in English between wanting to do something and being in the mood to do something in that the latter is necessarily temporary (while the former is more agnostic about the longevity of the desire, but can be made temporary with the addition of an adverbial phrase along the lines of "at the time").
To me at least, man karnaa (or man honaa) does in fact convey a sense that the desire is a vaqtii kaifiyat, much like muuD. I think @Qureshpor saaHib's jii chaahnaa (and the very colorful jii machalnaa!) also carry this sense.
To me, words like chaahnaa, xwaahish-mand, etc, are more agnostic about the longevity of the desire, but you can convey that it is a more temporary desire with the addition of an adverbial phrase along the lines of us vaqt, as you did in one of your translations!
To me at least, man karnaa (or man honaa) does in fact convey a sense that the desire is a vaqtii kaifiyat, much like muuD. I think @Qureshpor saaHib's jii chaahnaa (and the very colorful jii machalnaa!) also carry this sense.
To me, words like chaahnaa, xwaahish-mand, etc, are more agnostic about the longevity of the desire, but you can convey that it is a more temporary desire with the addition of an adverbial phrase along the lines of us vaqt, as you did in one of your translations!
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Are you attempting to say achhe/bure/naa-saaz mizaaj meN honaa is incorrect? I would agree with the examples given above. Aap ke kaise mizaaj haiN is quite often use to ask about one's mood/temperament. In this vein, ice cream kaa dil honaa/aanaa/karnaa is equivalent to ice-cream ke mizaaj meN honaa I.e. to be in the mood for ice-cream. Whereas ice-cream-mizaaj honaa would be to have a temperament like ice-cream!
Upon further reflection, there's an alternative to adverbial phrases for expressing that a desire is a vaqtii kaifiyat, which is a verb in an appropriate tense-aspect, eg, bachchoN ko aa'is kriim khaane kii ichchhaa ho rahii thii.
When one translates something from one language into another, often it is possible to get an exact equivalent for most things. Sometimes one gets quite close to the other language but not quite. This is quite natural and understandable. I am sure there must be lots of Urdu words for which there is n't an exact English word.
When reading some good piece of Urdu literature (say a short story by Prem Chand), you must have come across a word, phrase or idiom and you automatically start asking yourself what its equivalent would be. On occasions you will think of something that fits the slot perfectly but on other occasions you will be left helpless. Sometimes I think of this dilemma as a shortfall in the language or in us. My own view is that the truth lies closer to the shortcoming existing in us, rather than the respective language. I know of course that in science and technology, there is no comparison between Urdu and English but here we are not talking about science and technology.
With the "word" mood, I feel the situation is that there may not be one word that fits all contexts. However, I do feel there must be a word or phrase in Urdu that fits the context for most situations. It's just that on this occasion we in this group have fallen short of the challenge and this is one of those occasions.