# Wax poetic‏

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#### Schrodinger's_Cat

##### Senior Member
I submit to the community : Wax poetic‏

(To speak in an increasingly enthusiastic and poetic manner.)

but can you also wane poetic?

• #### Eigenfunction

##### Senior Member
Personally I'm more familiar with the phrase wax lyrical, but it sounds like the meaning is very similar. If one were to wane lyrical/poetic, do you think one would enter into some sort of linguistic retreat while remaining poetic, or would one become less and less poetic?

#### Schrodinger's_Cat

##### Senior Member
Hi Eigenfunction,

Are you a math major student?
Well, I'm not a language expert. I'm a physics major student ... my speech is influenced by math/physics... In the physical world, objects increase/grow or decrease/vanish or die ... the moon waxes and wanes, etc.

Since the expression "wax poetic" exists, I wonder whether it makes sense to ask, "could one wane poetic?"

#### Eigenfunction

##### Senior Member
I'm a physics student in fact. Your question seems reasonable to me, I'm just trying to work out exactly how wax is used in the original phrase, so that I can decide what I think the opposite, wane poetic should mean.

When one waxes poetic, does one wax and wane while remaining poetic, or does one remain constant while the poetry waxes and wanes within us?

#### Schrodinger's_Cat

##### Senior Member
You got me there! I don't know.

#### Loob

##### Senior Member
I think "he waned poetic/lyrical/eloquent" sounds like a great put-down...

Now you've invented it, BenVitale, I shall try to use it

#### Schrodinger's_Cat

##### Senior Member
I think "he waned poetic/lyrical/eloquent" sounds like a great put-down...

Now you've invented it, BenVitale, I shall try to use it
I'll be happy to read any examples can cook up ... well, just to test Eigenfunction's hypothesis

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#### natkretep

##### Moderato con anima (English Only)
This has been featured recently in the Phrase Finder website: see here, where the author Gary Martin signs off:

Time for me to wane lyrical and stop.
A playful use, no?

#### Schrodinger's_Cat

##### Senior Member
Yeah, I saw that when I posted the link.

Since wax and wane are opposites; (+x) and (-x). I was just wondering how I could create such a concept in writing, speech, etc.

I was surprised to find that this word is an offshoot of the Indo-European Language family's root fragment "aug", from whence we get words like augment, inaugurate, auxilliary, august, and auction.