With all/any due respect.

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G'day Englishist@s,
With all due respect, what is the difference between; with any due respect, and, with all due respect.

With all due respect.
or
With any due respect.

What is the difference.

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    • . said:
    G'day Englishist@s,
    With all due respect, what is the difference between; with any due respect, and, with all due respect.

    With all due respect.
    or
    With any due respect.

    What is the difference.

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    I suspect you know that with all due respect is the common expression; I've never heard any of the others.

    In the UK people usually say it when what they are about to say shows no respect at all for the other person. So it means: be warned I am about to be rude.

    e.g. With all due respect, you are an idiot.

    It's one of those terrible expressions you hear all the time, like shop assistants saying 'Can I help you' to mean 'Will you please piss off at once.'

    The French have a similar expression: 'Sans indiscretion' (without indiscretion) to enable them, as they think, to be as indiscreet as they wish, as in 'Without indiscretion, are you sleeping with your brother's wife.'
     
    Thomas Tompion said:
    In the UK people usually say it when what they are about to say shows no respect at all for the other person. So it means: be warned I am about to be rude.
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    This rude usage may be a BE habit, or that of the commentator. AE usage does not imply rudeness, but disagreement, often with one in authority. It is a way a saying, in effect, "I respect your greater rank or position of authority, yet I still find your position to be incorrect, and here is why....".

    Example: Mr. President, with all due respect, Attorney General Gonzalez has blundered so often and so badly that it would be wise to accept his resignation.
     
    Example: Mr. President, with all due respect, Attorney General Gonzalez has blundered so often and so badly that it would be wise to accept his resignation.
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    I don't think we'd use it like that, it'd be more like:

    "Mr Prime Minister, with all due respect, I totally disagree with your decision about Trident"

    It'd be to counter someone elses view, as previously mentioned, it seems we say it only when about to be rude, but we don't, it just means you're adding a bit of politeness when disagreeing, however, we're also big on sarcasm over here, too, so it's usually to disagree with others.

    So all of you, with all due respect, I am always right! (j/k)
     
    With all due respect, Mr Murphy, having studied each of your nearly four thousand posted messages carefully, I find not the slightest trace of sarcasm. :D
     
    "With all due respect, I disagree."
    Here, I think it's essentially rude for a subordinate to doubt a president's or one's superior's judgement or strongly hold onto one's own opinions To say that in advance is to ease the tension in the conversation.
     
    cuchuflete said:
    This rude usage may be a BE habit, or that of the commentator. AE usage does not imply rudeness, but disagreement, often with one in authority. It is a way a saying, in effect, "I respect your greater rank or position of authority, yet I still find your position to be incorrect, and here is why....".

    Example: Mr. President, with all due respect, Attorney General Gonzalez has blundered so often and so badly that it would be wise to accept his resignation.
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    That is my understanding of;
    With all due respect.
    I respect your authority but I disagree with your opinion nevertheless I am willing to remain respecting you as a person.

    It is possible, with intonation and phrasing, to be utterly dismissive with the same phrase.

    The same is not necessarily the case with;
    With any due respect.
    This is a statement challenging the listener to establish that there is any basis for respect at all.

    My interest is in the difference in actual meaning.

    I am fascinated by the opinions of non natives above natives because they have not been exposed to either phrase and can tell me what they think that the difference is.

    The origin in this case for me is me. It appears that there have been some covergent developers of the tweaked the phrase but I didn't plagiarise them.

    I first used it to tell a barrister exactly my opinion in Court. The silk almost inhaled a jebot (the poncy little white cravat) I liked it then and I like it now.

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    Now that I better understand the phrase, "with any due respect", I might translate it to AE as...

    With however much respect may be due... obviously implying that I believe less than none to be the amount due. I've never heard anything like this, but I imagine it could make a pompous person turn purple.
     
    cuchuflete said:
    Now that I better understand the phrase, "with any due respect", I might translate it to AE as...

    With however much respect may be due... obviously implying that I believe less than none to be the amount due. I've never heard anything like this, but I imagine it could make a pompous person turn purple.
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    Mate, it was worth the price of admission.
    Purple mixed with spluttering rage and the Judge had a coughing fit while His associate had to bolt to the back room and a replacement came in for ten minutes. When the associate came back she still had facial cramps and kept hiding behind her handkerchief.
    I was po faced and loving it.

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    . said:
    G'day Englishist@s,
    With all due respect, what is the difference between; with any due respect, and, with all due respect.

    With all due respect.
    or
    With any due respect.

    What is the difference.

    .,,
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    all = 100% any = less than 100%
     
    Aha!
    As a general comment I would have let "with any due respect" slide past as a mistaken cliché. In the courtroom context, where respect is somewhat more formalised and "with respect" or "with due respect" or "with all due respect" are probably used a great deal, the notable shift to say "with any due respect" would have considerable impact - as .,, describes.

    My understanding is the same as cuchu's, and I'm still grinning.
    Onya!
     
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